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, um, at the post in washington and abroad and has covered pakistan and afghanistan extensively. so we're really lucky to have both of them tonight. after the ambassador's opening remarks, he and karen will have a conversation before opening it up to q&a with the audience. so, please, join me in welcoming ambassador haqqani and karen deyoung. [applause] >> thank you very much. patricia, for that kind introduction. of course, when i was asked to come here, i thought, you know, nobody's paying any attention to pakistan these days. [laughter] nothing gets said about pakistan in the media, so why not use this forum to be able to communicate and, of course, find an excuse to be on c-span. [laughter] and so, therefore, here i am. it's a pleasure to see secretary mchale in the audience, judith mchale and i have worked together in the last sort of, you know, since her appointment as undersecretary, and public diplomacy, of course, is one of the many challenges we have dealt with at our end. so it's a pleasure seeing you here, and thank you for all the help and cooperation you offered here. of
and afghanistan. not a huge amount of money. by the way, when people wonder why -- what's happening to the s.e.c. and the f.t.c. are exhibits a and before. we would have been much further along. i think you should not hold off on it. i got some cost-benefit analysis on infrastructure in afghanistan and some of the other things that they are for. i think it is a reasonable thing to do. as long as the cost includes, of course, the financial crisis of -- and the lost revenue and jobs and turmoil. that's the cost. the cost is the terrible crisis we had. although -- i notice that alan sloan has come out with a thorough analysis that is going to be printed in "fortune" about how much money we made over the intervention, the combination of the tarp and the federal reserve and made about $100 billion for the federal government. >> [inaudible] just as a related question, you talked about the bailout being over. if -- are we really to believe that -- >> i will not comment on any financial institution. you get to be chairman or you're a ranking member and you have more nevertheless but you have got to
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